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July 31, 2008

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Great blog topic and insight Hanback. I have always been leery (embarassed?) to ask people to let me hunt. I don't know why??? I know guys who are really outgoing and not afraid to hear NO, and they get all kind of awesome places to hunt. Still, it's hard to change your personality, right?

I always ask, and most times get told "no". I think some hunters get tired of rejection and quit asking. I try to get to know someone a little before asking and maybe try to offer something in return.

I think people don't ask for all those reasons. But, once you're in, I see it as your spot to lose. You don't have to Kiss Butt to keep a spot. Let them know you appreciate them, don't just show up two days before bow season and see them for the first time since the previous January, etc.

Farmers are busy in the spring. Take them some morel mushrooms, or walleye fillets. The farmers are your friends, treat them as such. Nice gestures go a long way towards keeping the spot, and maintaining that positive relationship with your landowner friends.

Go see them on occasion throughout the year. Offer to help bale hay/straw, etc. Give them your cell. # and tell them if they ever need help with anything, you'll be there. Build that relationship and continue it through the years. And always...ALWAYS...THANK THEM for the opportunity. Send them a Christmas card and Thank THEM.

You don't have to kiss anyones tail, just be a good person and friend. Let the landowner know you care about them. Without them, you're screwed. Tell them flat out how much you appreciate them.

We all know it's getting harder to just walk up and secure permission on hunting land (especially larger pieces) than it used to be. Between leasing, liability issues, slob hunters and trespassers it can be really difficult. But it can be still be done.

I'm blessed to have a few good spots to go and a couple of them were secured by just asking.

One of them consists of a 20 yard wide L-shaped brushy fenceline right in the middle of an eighty acre corn/soybean field. When I asked the farmer if we could hunt there he looked @ me and smiled and said sure. No one had ever asked him to hunt that long, narrow patch of weeds/brushy trees in the middle of a field.

Last opening day of gun season (as hunters poured into the surrouding timber)my buddy saw 35 deer out of that stand and a couple good bucks. Everytime we hunted that stand, we saw deer and he killed a couple of does out of it.

Point is, yeah it's getting hard to find big blocks of timber to hunt on. Sometimes you can find a small piece and only hunt it very selectively (maybe only a couple of times before the deer know you are there). Sometimes it's going to be a bow only spot.

But these small, overlooked spots can really hold big deer and most people who lease won't even look @ them. Hell, most deer hunters won't even look @ them.

Jim


This particular spot certinaly wont be a primary hunting spot, due to distance from my house. It will be a nice change of scenery from where I normally hunt. I will definatly get down there a few times a year to hunt and scout. I will do my best to keep a relationship with the little old lady. Maybe just something little like having the wife make some cookies or a pie when I head down there. Just something to let the owner know that we appreciate the oppertunity she is letting me have.

I will also never be hesistant to ask for permission ever again. If I dont ask, someone will. You never know if you dont ask.

One more thing. Mike gave me alot tips and tactics on getting the most out of this small partitial of land. Thanks, I Appreciate it Mike.

I cannot speak for anyone's personality but I can tell you as a landowner why I don't grant permission to hunt...... Rarely do I see anyone prior to a few weeks before opening day, most often not until the weekend or afternoon before the season opener. Then it's usually a guy driving up to the farm house with a couple more guys sitting in the truck whom have blown into town just that day and will be gone again in a few days. QDM to them means shooting the first deer they see be it a fawn or a rack buck. Forget about them ever stopping by when there's work to be done...that just happens in fairy tales or in magazine articles. An tell them they must park on the road, leave their ATV in the truck, an not to hunt a certain area no matter if the biggest buck in the county is standing in that field and BINGO AWAY THEY GO...normally to the local watering hole to gripe about no place to hunt!

This is an excellent post. I waited for years to ask if I could hunt on the three adjacent properties where I now have exclusive permission. When I finally did ask, I got simple a "yes" with virtually no questions asked. This works especially well on small properties like the one Eli is hunting.

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